What means? I ask this because what is said on the page is that "they exist simultaneously, regardless of logic or structure" What does this have to do with "Subjectivity"? (PS: I know that the vast majority of the material here is fictional, but WHY it is considered SUBJECTIVE)
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Subjectivity is on a metafictional; each author has their own view of cosmology, and this doesn't mean that other cosmologies are invalid (otherwise, all but one person would have to be banned from the wiki). All cosmologies existing simultaneously is the in-universe explanation for this.
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Holomanga wrote: Subjectivity is on a metafictional; each author has their own view of cosmology, and this doesn't mean that other cosmologies are invalid (otherwise, all but one person would have to be banned from the wiki). All cosmologies existing simultaneously is the in-universe explanation for this.
So, could you elaborate an explanation for "In Universe Point of View", please?
I’m writing a similar concept in my future cosmology, and I’d like to see it better
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Tell me, please
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Basically just the standard “any alt-history can happen in a parallel universe”, except replace universe with a higher cosmological object.
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What? Explain please I understand but I don't catch the context or point Are you tell about, well, an "Alternative Cosmology"?
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Have you ever seen the plot device in fiction that goes "in this other universe, X happened instead of Y" or "A exists instead of B"? Like, the Axis won WW2 instead of the Allies, or the Earth is a cube rather than a sphere?
When Holomanga here is talking about an internal perspective for cosmological subjectivity, he refers to a setting in which "in this other [cosmology], A exists instead of B". In order to accommodate for all of these happening at once, you have to sort of ignore the contradictions they'd cause (e.g. one cosmology says only one universe exists, another cosmology says multiple universes exist) and just say that you can access any of those cosmologies from within your fictional setting.
Not that you actually have to do this when you're writing; this is really just a formalism we apply on the wiki to keep everyone included, and when you write a story or something it's easier just to use the bits of peoples' cosmologies that you need.
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I don't really stand too much by my phrasing of that thing from... wow, basically four years ago. Essentially, it's more of a guideline for looking at peoples' work: we shouldn't take down a page because it's "incorrect" in someone else's cosmology. This is just a way of saying "okay, settle down, you're both right" and moving on — in practice, people (including me) have crossed those boundaries from time to time, and this is something to move past.
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